The Great Escape

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semi
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Re: The Great Escape

Post by semi » 27 Oct 2019, 22:40

To me Stereotypes is one of the best blur songs and the best singles from this album. So I don't understand why everybody hates it.

TGE should have been

1- Stereotypes
2- Country House
3- Best Days
4- Charmless Man
5- Topman
6- The Universal
7- He thought Of Cars
8- No Monsters In Me
9- It Could Be You
10- Ernold Same
11- Globe Alone
12- Entertain Me
13- Yuko And Hiro

This tracklist could be a much better album than the real TGE.

John_d
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Re: The Great Escape

Post by John_d » 29 Oct 2019, 09:37

TracyJosh wrote:
22 Oct 2019, 15:35
.... M.O.R, The shit Blur singles collection:

M.O.R
Stereotypes
Bang
Crazy Beat
Ong Ong
Lonesome Street
Chemical World

:P
I really like MOR! Both versions. And the live version at Glastonbury 1998 is thrilling. I really like Ong Ong as well. Agree with the rest. Chemical World has always sounded very bland to me amongst many other wonderful songs on MLIR.

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Re: The Great Escape

Post by TracyJosh » 29 Oct 2019, 12:23

MOR just never really clicked with me for some reason. Just feel like it didn't really in any way expand on the idea that it borrowed from Bowie. 'Fantastic Voyage' and 'Boys keep swinging' are infinitely better songs and I know the idea wasn't to make it a one-up on the originals, but MOR really just offers nothing fresh or unique.

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Re: The Great Escape

Post by TristramShandy » 31 Oct 2019, 10:25

TracyJosh wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 12:23
MOR really just offers nothing fresh or unique.
The guitar part, maybe?

TracyJosh
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Re: The Great Escape

Post by TracyJosh » 31 Oct 2019, 14:17

....There's a good guitar part in every single blur song, doesn't get pass marks just for that :lol:

dparrott
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Re: The Great Escape

Post by dparrott » 03 Nov 2019, 17:11

MOR album version is cool, I like the live version the best, but that sped up "Road Version" is too messy for me.

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Re: The Great Escape

Post by MsMagicAmerica » 04 Nov 2019, 01:32

I actually like Stereotypes. The song off the Great Escape that I don't like at all which pretty much everyone loves is Yuko and Hiro. I just could never get into that song.

The Folding
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Re: The Great Escape

Post by The Folding » 12 Nov 2019, 13:11

For me it's a snapshot of the time. Wouldn't change a thing, except maybe make the guitars a bit more loose. It sounds too controlled. But that's my opinion now, not 1995.

Personally, I prefer the Budokan gig from 95 when listening to TGE era. It seems much more raw and darker. I still can't believe the band released Charmless Man in spring 96. Already by them, Damon had rejected the album. Song 2 was written around the same time of it's release, for context.

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Re: The Great Escape

Post by Mallard No. 22 » 23 Nov 2019, 07:56

I don't think TGE is any worse than 'Parklife'. Of the three in the 'trilogy', Parklife probably has a slight edge over MLIR and TGE.

I agree that the singles from TGE were a bit generic, though thankfully 'Country House' with its oompah sing-a-long feel was released as the lead single - it grabbed the listener in a way that 'Stereotypes' didn't.
"Everybody's Doing It...So Do It Too...."

TracyJosh
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Re: The Great Escape

Post by TracyJosh » 29 Nov 2019, 11:41

The Folding wrote:
12 Nov 2019, 13:11
For me it's a snapshot of the time. Wouldn't change a thing, except maybe make the guitars a bit more loose. It sounds too controlled. But that's my opinion now, not 1995.

Personally, I prefer the Budokan gig from 95 when listening to TGE era. It seems much more raw and darker. I still can't believe the band released Charmless Man in spring 96. Already by them, Damon had rejected the album. Song 2 was written around the same time of it's release, for context.
Live at the Budokan is such a brilliant live album. It's probably the release I've listened to most over the years. It's interesting to hear Graham rebel against all the Britpop era songs with his double Rat assault..

I doubt the band would have had much say over Charmless Man being released. I imagine it was part of the planned promotional cycle to avoid there being too much of a gap between albums. 94-97 was their peak fame years, the record company would have been wanting to make sure and maintain their success. So it would have been non-stop. Wasn't until after 13 that the band felt they had luxury to be out of the public consciousness for any length of time(for better or worse).

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Re: The Great Escape

Post by Mallard No. 22 » 07 Dec 2019, 18:29

Good points TracyJosh
"Everybody's Doing It...So Do It Too...."

The Folding
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Re: The Great Escape

Post by The Folding » 11 Dec 2019, 11:10

TracyJosh wrote:
31 Oct 2019, 14:17
....double rat assault.
I love that phrase. So perfect 😂

dparrott
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Re: The Great Escape

Post by dparrott » 15 Dec 2019, 02:38

TracyJosh wrote:
22 Oct 2019, 15:35
.... M.O.R, The shit Blur singles collection:

M.O.R
Stereotypes
Bang
Crazy Beat
Ong Ong
Lonesome Street
Chemical World

:P
Woah woah woah hold up. Most of those I agree with, but Chemical World???

The Folding
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Re: The Great Escape

Post by The Folding » 15 Dec 2019, 08:43

dparrott wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 02:38
TracyJosh wrote:
22 Oct 2019, 15:35
.... M.O.R, The shit Blur singles collection:

M.O.R
Stereotypes
Bang
Crazy Beat
Ong Ong
Lonesome Street
Chemical World

:P
Woah woah woah hold up. Most of those I agree with, but Chemical World???

Ikr lol

But as Graham said about CW, you know you're in trouble when Beavis and Butthead attack your video (sic)

For anyone who has learned to play CW on guitar, it's so much fun too and is a great example of how Graham pushes chord scales to make the blur sound. I think I use mild chorus or phaser for the string picky parts, can't remember but you guitarists here will remind me.

dparrott
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Re: The Great Escape

Post by dparrott » 16 Dec 2019, 06:19

The Folding wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 08:43

But as Graham said about CW, you know you're in trouble when Beavis and Butthead attack your video (sic)

Haha I loved that and was shocked it happened. Parklife was on that show too. Hey, it was exposure to a new group of people!

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