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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by Rubi » 13 Jun 2020, 08:11

bugman wrote:
09 Jun 2020, 18:05
Rubi wrote:
09 Jun 2020, 17:55
Am I the only one who's still waiting for Damon to write the next Feel Good Inc. for Gorillaz?
its not gonna happend i think. same no parklife or country house 2.0
I meant the next big hit. Will Damon ever write another hit for Gorillaz? Does he even have it in him? Or he just doesn't care anymore?

The guy's main ambition seems to be to experiment as much as possible and collaborate with as many people as possible. But I miss a huge Gorillaz song that captivates everyone and becomes iconic with the passing of time. Think Clint Eastwood, 19/2000, Feel Good Inc., DARE, On Melancholy Hill...

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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by vitekm » 13 Jun 2020, 08:43

Rubi wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:11
bugman wrote:
09 Jun 2020, 18:05
Rubi wrote:
09 Jun 2020, 17:55
Am I the only one who's still waiting for Damon to write the next Feel Good Inc. for Gorillaz?
its not gonna happend i think. same no parklife or country house 2.0
I meant the next big hit. Will Damon ever write another hit for Gorillaz? Does he even have it in him? Or he just doesn't care anymore?

The guy's main ambition seems to be to experiment as much as possible and collaborate with as many people as possible. But I miss a huge Gorillaz song that captivates everyone and becomes iconic with the passing of time. Think Clint Eastwood, 19/2000, Feel Good Inc., DARE, On Melancholy Hill...
For comparison, lets look up when Paul McCartney, Rolling Stones and David Bowie had their last (stand-alone, not collabs or charity singles like "Ferry Cross the Mersey."..) no. 1 (UK or US) single = real massive hit that grabs everyone attention, people love it, people hate it, but everybody knows it. Paul McCartney - Pipes of Peace (first in UK in 1983, 37 years ago). Rolling Stones - Miss You (first in US in 1978, 42 years ago). David Bowie - Lets Dance (first in UK in 1983, 37 years ago).

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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by John_d » 15 Jun 2020, 20:43

vitekm wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:43
Rubi wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:11
bugman wrote:
09 Jun 2020, 18:05


its not gonna happend i think. same no parklife or country house 2.0
I meant the next big hit. Will Damon ever write another hit for Gorillaz? Does he even have it in him? Or he just doesn't care anymore?

The guy's main ambition seems to be to experiment as much as possible and collaborate with as many people as possible. But I miss a huge Gorillaz song that captivates everyone and becomes iconic with the passing of time. Think Clint Eastwood, 19/2000, Feel Good Inc., DARE, On Melancholy Hill...
For comparison, lets look up when Paul McCartney, Rolling Stones and David Bowie had their last (stand-alone, not collabs or charity singles like "Ferry Cross the Mersey."..) no. 1 (UK or US) single = real massive hit that grabs everyone attention, people love it, people hate it, but everybody knows it. Paul McCartney - Pipes of Peace (first in UK in 1983, 37 years ago). Rolling Stones - Miss You (first in US in 1978, 42 years ago). David Bowie - Lets Dance (first in UK in 1983, 37 years ago).
I agree with this point but it maye needs a bit more context. I think the point is that even the top pop/rock artists only have about 15 years between their first big hit and their last. Damon managed 1991 (There's no other way) - 2005 (Feel Good inc) or you could even argue 2006 as DARE also had longevity. Very respectable indeed. OMH has become a pretty big song over time, but I would hesitate to call it a "hit".
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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by vitekm » 16 Jun 2020, 13:44

John_d wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 20:43
vitekm wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:43
Rubi wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:11


I meant the next big hit. Will Damon ever write another hit for Gorillaz? Does he even have it in him? Or he just doesn't care anymore?

The guy's main ambition seems to be to experiment as much as possible and collaborate with as many people as possible. But I miss a huge Gorillaz song that captivates everyone and becomes iconic with the passing of time. Think Clint Eastwood, 19/2000, Feel Good Inc., DARE, On Melancholy Hill...
For comparison, lets look up when Paul McCartney, Rolling Stones and David Bowie had their last (stand-alone, not collabs or charity singles like "Ferry Cross the Mersey."..) no. 1 (UK or US) single = real massive hit that grabs everyone attention, people love it, people hate it, but everybody knows it. Paul McCartney - Pipes of Peace (first in UK in 1983, 37 years ago). Rolling Stones - Miss You (first in US in 1978, 42 years ago). David Bowie - Lets Dance (first in UK in 1983, 37 years ago).
I agree with this point but it maye needs a bit more context. I think the point is that even the top pop/rock artists only have about 15 years between their first big hit and their last. Damon managed 1991 (There's no other way) - 2005 (Feel Good inc). Very respectable indeed. OMH has become a pretty big song over time, but I would hesitate to call it a "hit".
Sure, we can/should compare much more artists/bands. Also, not only no. 1 song is "a hit". So, thorought comparison would count for example songs in "Top 10." This was just quick and simple comparison with three massive acts widely considered "legends". Damon with his Blur/Gorillaz career is doing very well, the trouble (regarding his place in music history) is he is "third generation", not "founding father". But even this perception can change with time.

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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by __must__ » 17 Jun 2020, 20:43

Seems there's been some Song Machine digital radio promo releases, judging from what I've seen around.

Momentary Bliss (feat. Slaves & slowthai)
1. Momentary Bliss (Dirty) - 3:41
2. Momentary Bliss (Clean) - 3:41

Aries (feat. Peter Hook and Georgia)
1. Aries (Radio Edit) - 3:51
2. Aries (Main) - 4:13
3. Aries (Instrumental) - 4:13

I've also heard a How Far? clean edit played on the BBC, so I assume a radio promo containing a dirty and clean How Far? exists too.
Aries also has a single track promo CD, pressed by Warner Music Benelux, as found here. https://www.discogs.com/Gorillaz-Feat-P ... er/1743454

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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by Mallard No. 22 » 18 Jun 2020, 07:51

stephen wrote:
10 Jun 2020, 07:44
It's all been a bit meh for me, the stand out track for me was the first one; Momentary Bliss. Maybe i'm just at an age where I don't appreciate the current trends.
I think there is some truth in this Stephen. It can get to a point, e.g. for those aged 35+, when you no longer get over-excited over something new :| , whilst not losing your fan interest as such :)
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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by stephen » 18 Jun 2020, 08:13

Mallard No. 22 wrote:
18 Jun 2020, 07:51
stephen wrote:
10 Jun 2020, 07:44
It's all been a bit meh for me, the stand out track for me was the first one; Momentary Bliss. Maybe i'm just at an age where I don't appreciate the current trends.
I think there is some truth in this Stephen. It can get to a point, e.g. for those aged 35+, when you no longer get over-excited over something new :| , whilst not losing your fan interest as such :)
Are you saying it's an age thing? I guess everything is a bit meh :lol:

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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by Mallard No. 22 » 26 Jun 2020, 20:27

I think it is an age thing.... :? :)
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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by dparrott » 29 Jun 2020, 15:44

Rubi wrote:
09 Jun 2020, 17:55
Am I the only one who's still waiting for Damon to write the next Feel Good Inc. for Gorillaz?
No you are not!

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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by dparrott » 29 Jun 2020, 15:47

My wife lost interest in Blur after Think Tank, but she's now crazy about BTS :roll: I played her Lonesome Street and she was very meh.

I'm very meh about most current music, but once in a while I'm blown away by something.

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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by Rubi » 29 Jun 2020, 19:40

dparrott wrote:
29 Jun 2020, 15:47
My wife lost interest in Blur after Think Tank, but she's now crazy about BTS :roll: I played her Lonesome Street and she was very meh.
From Blur to BTS, that's quite the downfall if I may say so.

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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by Neal Zeal » 29 Jun 2020, 22:52

vitekm wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:43
Rubi wrote:
13 Jun 2020, 08:11
bugman wrote:
09 Jun 2020, 18:05


its not gonna happend i think. same no parklife or country house 2.0
I meant the next big hit. Will Damon ever write another hit for Gorillaz? Does he even have it in him? Or he just doesn't care anymore?

The guy's main ambition seems to be to experiment as much as possible and collaborate with as many people as possible. But I miss a huge Gorillaz song that captivates everyone and becomes iconic with the passing of time. Think Clint Eastwood, 19/2000, Feel Good Inc., DARE, On Melancholy Hill...
For comparison, lets look up when Paul McCartney, Rolling Stones and David Bowie had their last (stand-alone, not collabs or charity singles like "Ferry Cross the Mersey."..) no. 1 (UK or US) single = real massive hit that grabs everyone attention, people love it, people hate it, but everybody knows it. Paul McCartney - Pipes of Peace (first in UK in 1983, 37 years ago). Rolling Stones - Miss You (first in US in 1978, 42 years ago). David Bowie - Lets Dance (first in UK in 1983, 37 years ago).
It's just about airplay, really. When did these acts last have a successful airplay hit, that continues to be played to some extent?
Paul Weller currently has a song on the Radio 2 A-list - Europe's most popular station.
He's 62. It's not my cuppa tea but radio stations are open to playing stuff by people a lot older than Mr Allbran.

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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by TracyJosh » 02 Jul 2020, 11:20

If you aren't an excessively marketed, global commercial pop act like Ed Sheeran, Drake, Dua Lipa, George Ezra or Sam Smith, then it's better to measure the success of a single based on how much it appears in the public domain via use in film, tv, advertisement and radio airplay. Charts are no longer even a question of what's hot or not, it's a foregone conclusion now. A mega star can release a really middle of the road single and by default it will be a hit because they have 6 trillion followers on spotify who click play.

The flip side of it is a lot of alternative acts will get number 1 albums these days because you only need a couple thousand physical sales to hit the top 10. It makes no sense anymore.

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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by joana » 15 Jul 2020, 17:46

Everytime I lurk this forum, there's something new from gorillaz.

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Re: Gorillaz - Song Machine

Post by rich » 20 Jul 2020, 19:28

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