Dream Theater: The Astonishing

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Dream Theater: The Astonishing

Post by dparrott » 31 Jan 2016, 17:08

Normally I wouldn't post this here due to the few hard rock fans, but I have to say how great this album is. It's a futuristic rock opera over two hours and there's not one bad song on it! There's a good balance of genres with a full orchestra and a choir. The feel is mostly upbeat and the musicianship is top notch. It's a monster. Album of the year for me. As a collective work, no one is topping this.

Best songs are listed below:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34125D9 ... A&index=32" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oYAvRX ... YFOU5WclqA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yhFSTA ... A&index=22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt618Rn ... YFOU5WclqA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing

Post by KingLouieLouie76 » 31 Jan 2016, 21:33

I've been a fan (not HUGE though) of them for 20+ years.... A close high school friend got me into them.... I do miss Mike Portnoy though and wish he would return... I honestly haven't checked out their more recent material, but will soon.....I would have to rank "Awake" followed by "Images and Words" as my faves of what I've listened to... A really solid band that I heard one must check out live.....
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing

Post by dparrott » 01 Feb 2016, 01:32

Their post MP albums have been hit and miss, but this one is a must. I've been into them since Images.

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Post by KingLouieLouie76 » 02 Feb 2016, 00:05

dparrott wrote:Their post MP albums have been hit and miss, but this one is a must. I've been into them since Images.

Thanks... I should certainly check "the Astonishing" out! Are you into Fear Factory and Iced Earth as well?
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Post by MrMagpie » 02 Feb 2016, 14:07

Massive fan, as you know Danny...but this album... :?

Way too long, quite cheesy, very repetitive (how many mid-tempo ballads that all sound the sound), the lyrics are way too literal, the story sounds like something a pimply-faced 14-year old heavily into Rush (I'm a huge fan) and Yes would write, and the story is a direct rip-off of 2112 and Lifehouse. Mangini's drums continue to sound mechanical, soulless, and without feel even though technically he's even better than MP is. And where the hell is John Myung? You can barely hear him! The high points are a handful of songs, Labrie's performance, and Jordan's restraint. Otherwise, this is in the bottom of DT's discography for me. I'm impressed they tried something so new and different, but it falls far short of the mark for me.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing

Post by dparrott » 03 Feb 2016, 17:20

Thanks for killing the positive vibe of my post, dude! :P

I'll be the first to complain about having this many ballads on an album, but since this is a rock opera, I don't mind them. They're also well done, while others are some of their best songs ever I think.

I don't mind MM, but yea it would sound a lot better with MP's added percussion bits.

And about it being a rip-off...is anything truly original anymore? I read the overview of 2112 (not a fan) and, while similar in setup, TA goes it's own way. It's also 2 hours, not 20 minutes!

And not hearing JM has been a problem for years.

You're not the only one, this album is very polarizing with the fans. But we all want DT a certain way. I didn't really feel ADTOE, others love it. This album is my second favorite behind SFAM.

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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing

Post by MrMagpie » 03 Feb 2016, 17:31

^I thought ADTOE was actually quite good, but the self-titled was garbage. This one falls in between, for me. I'm fine moving on from MP since for the last 5 years he was in DT I preferred MP's side projects to DT anyway, but I think JP and JR are running amok now and it's not always a good thing.
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing

Post by dparrott » 03 Feb 2016, 23:26

King: not into those bands, I kinda moved on from that stuff years ago, but I like Porcupine Tree, Metallica, Pantera, Primus, Living Colour...

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Post by KingLouieLouie76 » 04 Feb 2016, 18:55

dparrott wrote:King: not into those bands, I kinda moved on from that stuff years ago, but I like Porcupine Tree, Metallica, Pantera, Primus, Living Colour...

What's so ironic.... I since moved on from those bands as well.... But I do love Living Colour (still very underrated here in the States), Pantera, and always been mixed on Primus, and haven't been in Metallica in quite some time. I've liked of most of what I've heard out of Porcupine Tree.

I also am a huge fan of System of a Down, but several seem to bash them quite a bit. I hope they reunite soon though!


I agree with you (MrMagpie) on both JP and JR seemed scattered, just wish JM would fully counter or keep them in check more....
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Re: Dream Theater: The Astonishing

Post by MrMagpie » 05 Feb 2016, 13:09

^honestly, and again I'm not saying this because I'm such a huge MP fan or because I think he was faultless (he certainly wasn't), but he definitely brought a more realistic and FUN approach to the table that is lacking since he's left. MP is a music FAN and has far more influences than the others...do JP and JR strike you as fans of music or just musicians? I know what I think about it...also, MP has pretty wide ranging tastes...not only prog and metal, but also classic rock ranging from the Who and Zeppelin and Floyd to Elton John, Billy Joel, and the Ramones. He even admitted several years ago that he was the only one in the band without such a narrow range of influences to draw from and honestly, since he's left, it shows.
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