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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by Lt Pinkerton » 10 Nov 2015, 23:28

KingLouieLouie76 wrote:Matt Sharp was the most important of Weezer!
Not really, given that he didn't even write any Weezer song :lol: I know where you're coming from though.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by AdvertBreak » 10 Nov 2015, 23:30

Be Here Now is most of the time great.

I hate people who tell you Oasis only made two great albums, the first two.

Although I sorta agree with people that say the same for Weezer.

Illmatic is boring.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by KingLouieLouie76 » 10 Nov 2015, 23:31

Lt Pinkerton wrote:
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:Matt Sharp was the most important of Weezer!
Not really, given that he didn't even write any Weezer song :lol: I know where you're coming from though.

To me he kept Rivers in check.. like Graham does for Damon..or what John and Paul did for each other.... I feel that element is so crucial in band or otherwise they will over indulge everything, which to me each of those individuals have been guilty of when riding solo (except for Graham to be honest)....
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Post by Lt Pinkerton » 10 Nov 2015, 23:38

AdvertBreak wrote:Be Here Now is most of the time great.

I hate people who tell you Oasis only made two great albums, the first two.
Hug it out. I love Be Here Now.
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Lt Pinkerton wrote:
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:Matt Sharp was the most important of Weezer!
Not really, given that he didn't even write any Weezer song :lol: I know where you're coming from though.

To me he kept Rivers in check.. like Graham does for Damon..or what John and Paul did for each other.... I feel that element is so crucial in band or otherwise they will over indulge everything, which to me each of those individuals have been guilty of when riding solo (except for Graham to be honest)....
The difference is that Rivers and Matt never were a songwriting duo, while it could be argued that the others you mentioned did write songs together or at least collaborated and helped each other. Matt didn't even write his own basslines, his presence was surely important but only on an emotional spectrum. He challenged and questioned Rivers artistically even if they didn't write together.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by KingLouieLouie76 » 10 Nov 2015, 23:48

Lt Pinkerton wrote:The difference is that Rivers and Matt never were a songwriting duo, while it could be argued that the others you mentioned did write songs together or at least collaborated and helped each other. Matt didn't even write his own basslines, his presence was surely important but only on an emotional spectrum. He challenged and questioned Rivers artistically even if they didn't write together.
I believe Matt contributed somewhat more than what Rivers ever gave him credit for, but true..perhaps to that lesser degree... and you nailed it on that emotional spectrum level.... perhaps a better comparison would be to how Mike Love impacted Brian Wilson emotionally... mainly on "Smile"......
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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by tom_cas1 » 11 Nov 2015, 00:06

The Rentals are better than Weezer. In fact Weezer are one of the most overrated bands in history. A few great songs but in general, pretty average.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by Forever Low Man » 11 Nov 2015, 00:24

TripleJay97 wrote:
AdvertBreak wrote:Forever Low Man is wrong about 96% of the time (wait that's probably a popular opinion) ;)
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I'm not arguing with that.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by TripleJay97 » 11 Nov 2015, 08:55

The Next Day was a bit shit.
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Post by Consigliere_11 » 11 Nov 2015, 10:51

^It got a lot more praise because it is a sort of comeback record, that's for sure
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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by mr_spenalzo » 11 Nov 2015, 18:39

TripleJay97 wrote:The Next Day was a bit shit.
Tonight is a bit shit. David Bowie (1967) is a bit shit.

The Next Day is just a little overrated (I hesitate to use "is", and not "was", because general opinion seems to be moving towards it being a 6 or 7 out of 10 record now the initial excitement is gone)

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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by tom_cas1 » 11 Nov 2015, 21:12

The Stones Roses are overrated.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by JAIME » 11 Nov 2015, 21:24

tom_cas1 wrote:The Stones Roses are overrated.
Dunno.
But, Ian Brown's voice is not great at all, live.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by 101reykjavik » 11 Nov 2015, 21:28

JAIME wrote:
tom_cas1 wrote:The Stones Roses are overrated.
Dunno.
But, Ian Brown's voice is not great at all, live.
No one overrates Ian Brown's voice. :lol:
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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by AdvertBreak » 12 Nov 2015, 00:58

Its kinda strange how the lead singer is the least important ingredient in that band. Just goes to show how great the others are.

Yes, he writes the lyrics, but thats different from singing them.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions Thread

Post by 101reykjavik » 12 Nov 2015, 13:15

AdvertBreak wrote:Its kinda strange how the lead singer is the least important ingredient in that band. Just goes to show how great the others are.

Yes, he writes the lyrics, but thats different from singing them.
I dunno. What would they be without his stage presence though? Great musicians, but reduced live enormously, despite his voice being like a bag of spanners. Can't sing, but what a front man.
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