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Post by MrMagpie » 13 Jul 2017, 14:51

MsMagicAmerica wrote:BTW, Drew, I just started Phil Collins' autobiography, have you read it yet? If so what did you think?
I haven't...how was it?
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MrMagpie wrote:Wasn't it great? I loved Ray's writing style, too...it felt like you were sitting down with him at a table having him tell you all of this over some beers. It makes me sad that there aren't any other IoW festivals for him to write about!
Yes, his writing style was honest. E.g. meeting Janis Joplin in Albert Grossman's office, or dealing with the local MP who was against the festivals, was told without sensationalism, or vitriol.

He briefly mentioned the subsequent shows in London at The Oval and Wembley Empire Pool. He mentioned that when he did these 1971-72, the gig/festival circuit was going into corporate hands. And he moved into non-musical careers.

Reading between the lines, it seems that the IOW festival promotions ended his first marriage. Although his daughter from that marriage is his co-writer and researcher on the books.
Yeah, those festivals took a toll on his life, physically, financially, and emotionally. Three years in a row, each one getting bigger and bigger. Insanity, especially for a straight (i.e. non-counterculture) guy in the late 1960s/early 1970s. Heady times!
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Post by MrMagpie » 13 Jul 2017, 14:54

Chip Madinger, who wrote the excellent Eight Arms to Hold You back in 2000, is back with a new book called LENNONOLOGY. It's a day-by-day chronicle of John and Yoko's time together from the day they met in 1966 until December 8th, 1980. I finally had a chance to read and review the book. The amount of information in the book is staggering and it really brings John and Yoko's lives and careers together into full focus. There was a lot that even a longtime obsessive fan like myself learned. I highly recommend the book if you haven't already picked it up.

Here's my review, with an interview with Chip to follow in the coming weeks --> http://rnrchemist.blogspot.com/2017/07/ ... -days.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by Mallard No. 22 » 13 Jul 2017, 20:35

:geek: You wouldn't think there could be so much to write about John Lennon.

But evidently there is, and you have given it 10/10.

I don't know if I will buy it, but on that recommendation, I should :D
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Post by MrMagpie » 14 Jul 2017, 12:30

Mallard No. 22 wrote::geek: You wouldn't think there could be so much to write about John Lennon.

But evidently there is, and you have given it 10/10.

I don't know if I will buy it, but on that recommendation, I should :D
The book made me almost, ALMOST, appreciate Yoko's work. Although it did also expose just how stupid, childish, and devoid of talent most of it is, at least her "art." But John Lennon the human shines through loud and clear. Reading this book made me want to go back in time, have a beer with him, and just talk (and more importantly, LISTEN) to him.
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Post by Mallard No. 22 » 20 Jul 2017, 05:06

I can imagine visiting the Lennon's household. John would be happy to sit and talk, Sean would say hello and bring in cups of tea :)

Meanwhile Yoko would be yabbering on the phone, stomping up and down the stairs and banging the washing machine door closed.... :evil: :lol:
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Mallard No. 22 wrote:I can imagine visiting the Lennon's household. John would be happy to sit and talk, Sean would say hello and bring in cups of tea :)

Meanwhile Yoko would be yabbering on the phone, stomping up and down the stairs and banging the washing machine door closed.... :evil: :lol:
Pretty much. What was quite surprising in the book was how, especially in 1979-1980, John was almost a single dad (albeit one with a nanny, assistants, and a vast fortune). Yoko spent little to no time with him and Sean, either at home or on vacations. No wonder he was so lonely and miserable (as documented on his diary cassettes) during that time. Such a weird dynamic, yet he lapped it right up. A complete 180 from when he was with Cynthia.
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Post by Mallard No. 22 » 28 Jul 2017, 05:32

Yes, I suspect if he hadn't achieved fame (unlikely though that seems) he & Cynthia would have remained married.

They might have been alive now, in a world where The Beatles never happened :mrgreen:
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Post by MrMagpie » 28 Jul 2017, 13:39

^Not sure about that. As much as I like Cyn as a person (from what I've read, of course, since I never met her!), she was very much the traditional stay-at-home-with-the-kids housewife (which she said in her book she LIKED being), while John was always a bit untraditional. I'm not sure it would've worked out even if he hadn't been famous...just my take.
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Post by MsMagicAmerica » 31 Jul 2017, 07:01

Knowing from what I've read, I doubt they would have lasted. Honestly, I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did. They seemed to be the type who just got married b/c she got pregnant.
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Post by Mallard No. 22 » 01 Aug 2017, 05:12

:| Good old Cynthia.

Imagine (....ahem) a world where she did just that, married John because she was pregnant. John got a job as a journalist on the local paper and The Beatles never happened. :mrgreen:

The Dave Clark Five became the biggest band in the world, and their leader married Yoko. Over fifty years later, they owned the rights to lots of 60s music and prevented its re-release.... :evil:

'Help!'.... :)
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Post by MrMagpie » 10 Aug 2017, 18:39

MsMagicAmerica wrote:Knowing from what I've read, I doubt they would have lasted. Honestly, I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did. They seemed to be the type who just got married b/c she got pregnant.
They definitely loved each other, and madly, for the first few years of their relationship. Once Bealtemania hit in late '63, though, I think John became less interested in being a husband and father. Or as he so "eloquently" put it, "Julian was born out of a whiskey bottle on a Saturday night, but Sean was a child born of love." What a guy... :roll:
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MrMagpie wrote:
MsMagicAmerica wrote:Knowing from what I've read, I doubt they would have lasted. Honestly, I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did. They seemed to be the type who just got married b/c she got pregnant.
They definitely loved each other, and madly, for the first few years of their relationship. Once Bealtemania hit in late '63, though, I think John became less interested in being a husband and father. Or as he so "eloquently" put it, "Julian was born out of a whiskey bottle on a Saturday night, but Sean was a child born of love." What a guy... :roll:
Fame probably got to his head.
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Post by MrMagpie » 11 Aug 2017, 19:22

It did, but he was also a typical chauvinist Liverpool lad of the 1950s/60s, as were the other 3. Your woman stays home, cooks, cleans, and does whatever you need at your beck and call while you go out to work, drink, hang with the guys, and get a little action on the side. The ONE thing I will say Yoko did was to soften him up in that regard...not that he was faithful to her during their marriage, but it was miles ahead of where he was with poor Cyn.
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Post by Forever Low Man » 12 Aug 2017, 21:23

MrMagpie wrote:It did, but he was also a typical chauvinist Liverpool lad of the 1950s/60s, as were the other 3. Your woman stays home, cooks, cleans, and does whatever you need at your beck and call while you go out to work, drink, hang with the guys, and get a little action on the side. The ONE thing I will say Yoko did was to soften him up in that regard...not that he was faithful to her during their marriage, but it was miles ahead of where he was with poor Cyn.
should have stayed with May Pang though
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Post by MsMagicAmerica » 13 Aug 2017, 02:00

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