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Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 23:22
by tom_cas1
I'm listening to the Super Deluxe edition right now on Apple Music. Loving the outtakes! The Esher demos sound very good too. I'd like to own the hard copy at some point but I'm glad I can listen this way for now.

Stand outs so far:

Let It Be (Unnumbered Rehearsal) - WOW! So different to the final product but still incredible!
Martha My Dear (Without Brass & Strings)

Also important note how good Clapton's solo is on the final album version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps. The outtake on the Super Deluxe isn't disappointing but it makes you realise how THAT Clapton solo really takes the song to another level.

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 02:20
by KingLouieLouie76
I was about to comment about the "Let It Be" outtake and I was completely amazed on how exceptional that is!


I still haven't listened to the final 2 sides yet, but to me "Let It Be" stood out more than anything else except for some of the "Esher" demos!

I cannot wait for "Abbey Road" and "Let It Be" remasters, but I honestly hope they can still do something for "Revolver" because I was often amazed on how several of those tracks evolved from start to finish....I suppose some of that was captured on "Anthology".

I remember nearly 30-years ago my local Classic Rock station at the time played an entire weekend broadcasts of Beatles recording sessions and I've been looking for that for quite some time. I had Mark Lewisohn's book of recording sessions and would compare everything. I still wish I had my copy because it would put everything we're now listening to in complete further perspective.

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 08:36
by Mallard No. 22
I want to buy the 50th anniversary set on CD, but will wait until the price reduces a bit.

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 17:01
by MrMagpie
The Esher Demos were really the only selling point for me (I didn't like the Pepper remix and for as interesting as the outtakes are, how often do I really listen to them). The complete demos sourced from George's master tapes are EXQUISITE. It's like having a completely different, acoustic version of the White Album. I wrote about it on my blog if anyone is interested --> https://rnrchemist.blogspot.com/2018/11 ... rails.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wish they'd do some standalone releases of things like that instead of these mega deluxe boxes. Same deal with Paul's upcoming Wild Life, Red Rose Speedway, and Wings 1971-73 sets.

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 01:01
by KingLouieLouie76
MrMagpie.....

I definitely agree with your review! "Esher" was always among the "Holy Grail" and here it in its entirety in such wonderful quality indeed makes that package alone all worthwhile! I just wonder what else could have been included. I wish they had all the "Back in the USSR" takes because of how it's been documented over the years that Paul, John, and George each attempted drumming. It would have been intriguing to see how that all evolved over time. I loved though that earlier "Let It Be" demo and I somewhat wish that was the final form.


I believe the "Let It Be" release (aside from releasing bonus never seen footage) equivalent would be the "River Rhine" sessions. I know several suggested the whole rooftop concert as well.

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 14:14
by MrMagpie
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:MrMagpie.....

I definitely agree with your review! "Esher" was always among the "Holy Grail" and here it in its entirety in such wonderful quality indeed makes that package alone all worthwhile! I just wonder what else could have been included. I wish they had all the "Back in the USSR" takes because of how it's been documented over the years that Paul, John, and George each attempted drumming. It would have been intriguing to see how that all evolved over time. I loved though that earlier "Let It Be" demo and I somewhat wish that was the final form.


I believe the "Let It Be" release (aside from releasing bonus never seen footage) equivalent would be the "River Rhine" sessions. I know several suggested the whole rooftop concert as well.
I'd have to vote for the complete rooftop show in pristine quality. I've got the whole show on bootleg and the sound is good but it could be better. As for LIB session outtakes, I have the A/B Road set which is literally ALL of the Nagra tapes from those sessions, 96 CDs worth, and while it makes for fascinating listening once or twice, there's only a handful of diamonds in that turd pile. If they could compile those best bits into a set, I'd be up for it.

I have to say, though, I am into these sets ONLY for the bonus goodies. I am NOT a fan of Giles Martin's new mixes and the fact that he and the Beatles' social media accounts are starting to call him "the sixth Beatle" are rubbing me the wrong way.

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 14:17
by tom_cas1
Sixth Beatle? That’s a stretch. A great producer don’t get me wrong but all the work was done by the band and George Martin. Anyone can remix a track.

Talking about a sixth Beatle is interesting though. If I had to go for someone I’d go with Billy Preston. His contributions during the Get Back sessions and Let It Be album were fantastic.

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 15:37
by MrMagpie
tom_cas1 wrote:Sixth Beatle? That’s a stretch. A great producer don’t get me wrong but all the work was done by the band and George Martin. Anyone can remix a track.

Talking about a sixth Beatle is interesting though. If I had to go for someone I’d go with Billy Preston. His contributions during the Get Back sessions and Let It Be album were fantastic.
I'd go with Brian. True, he wasn't involved in the creative process and he wasn't the greatest businessman by any stretch, but without him the band is nothing.

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 21:02
by MsMagicAmerica
I’d go with Yoko.

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 21:47
by KingLouieLouie76
6th Beatle I thought was Mal Evans. Others considered would be Neil Aspinall and perhaps someone like Geoff Emerick.


MrMagPie, it's great seeing you posting again, hopefully on a more regular basis. You consider a "turd pile" because of a lackadaisical effort? The "Love Me Do" remake was rather horrid and it seemed they just lacked much conviction/emotion on several of the tapes I've heard.


I wish though they did something for "Rubber Soul" and "Revolver".... Would have to wait until 2025 and 2026 respectively for 60th Anniversary re-issues! haha :lol:


What would be significant from the "Abbey Road" sessions that is considered very rare and sought after?

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 17 Nov 2018, 09:54
by MsMagicAmerica
I'm kinda bummed. I wanted to get the Wings 71-73 box set when I got the Wildlife and Red Rose Speedway sets, but the only place I can find it is on Paul's website for $400. Now, at first I thought that was mad expensive, but then I realized that you got both Wildlife and RRS with it so I thought I's suck it up. Now I see on Amazon Wildlife is $140 and RRS is $180. So if I get the Wings 71-73 set I'd be paying an extra $80 for the bonus material. Ummmm, no. Was anyone else thinking of getting it? Why are the box sets so much money? I never got the box sets for Paul's reissues before, but I like the special features on these two

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 17 Nov 2018, 15:09
by MrMagpie
MsMagicAmerica wrote:I'm kinda bummed. I wanted to get the Wings 71-73 box set when I got the Wildlife and Red Rose Speedway sets, but the only place I can find it is on Paul's website for $400. Now, at first I thought that was mad expensive, but then I realized that you got both Wildlife and RRS with it so I thought I's suck it up. Now I see on Amazon Wildlife is $140 and RRS is $180. So if I get the Wings 71-73 set I'd be paying an extra $80 for the bonus material. Ummmm, no. Was anyone else thinking of getting it? Why are the box sets so much money? I never got the box sets for Paul's reissues before, but I like the special features on these two
I'm with you, Paul's sets are getting to be too pricey and honestly the bonus material isn't worth that much $ to me. Photos and replica memorabilia are nice and all, but at the end of the day I just care about the music. For his archive releases I tend to just buy the standard 2CD sets and then rip the rest of the music from Spotify.
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:6th Beatle I thought was Mal Evans. Others considered would be Neil Aspinall and perhaps someone like Geoff Emerick.


MrMagPie, it's great seeing you posting again, hopefully on a more regular basis. You consider a "turd pile" because of a lackadaisical effort? The "Love Me Do" remake was rather horrid and it seemed they just lacked much conviction/emotion on several of the tapes I've heard.


I wish though they did something for "Rubber Soul" and "Revolver".... Would have to wait until 2025 and 2026 respectively for 60th Anniversary re-issues! haha :lol:


What would be significant from the "Abbey Road" sessions that is considered very rare and sought after?
Abbey Road is a mystery because there's barely anything that's come out from those sessions over the years on bootleg. One of the bootlegs I've had for years has an early mix of the medley (which has different tape loop sound effects and and organ drone linking some of the songs, most notably "YNGMYM" to "Sun King"), a version of "YNGMYM" with a studio jam for a few minutes, and an early version of "Something" with a coda that was removed (and later cribbed by John for "Remember" on his first solo album). That's why when that early take of "Come Together" came out on Anthology 3 it was such a big deal...no one knew they had more Abbey Road stuff in good quality. I'd suspect if we get anything for an Abbey Road anniversary we'd be surprised with stuff we never even knew about. Still, those sessions were really only about a month and a half (July-mid August 1969, not including the early February and April '69 sessions) and very few had all 4 Beatles working together at the same time, so not sure how much quality stuff there is.

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 17 Nov 2018, 20:05
by KingLouieLouie76
MrMagpie wrote: Abbey Road is a mystery because there's barely anything that's come out from those sessions over the years on bootleg.

I forgot there's that "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" version with Paul on vocals but I never knew the validity of that or not?

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 17 Nov 2018, 21:16
by MsMagicAmerica
They really are. I was just thinking of getting them because of the videos. I don’t care about the photos are replicas. The photos usually surface on the internet or instagram anyway

Re: The Beatles Thread

Posted: 18 Nov 2018, 18:05
by TristramShandy
Has anyone of you ever cut/pasted Her Majesty into its normal/original place in the medley? It was supposed to be after Mean Mr. Mustard (hence the opening chord of Her Majesty, which is in fact the ending of Mustard) and before Polythene Pam (hence the brutal stop at the end of Her Majesty which should have segued into Pam) but probably I'm not teaching you anything...
I did the cut and paste for fun, it fits perfectly (after a bit of tweaking, cause the CD tracks don't tally exactly as they should), but wow, on the first listen it was like discovering a Beatles tune I didn't know... Shivers down my spine! Highly recommended experience! :D